Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Krasne si dobehol straty Rado. Ale nepouzil si zrejme uplne konzervativnu strategiu.
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Rozmýšľam, že čo je konzervatívna stratégia? Z môjho pohľadu som riešil iba ako zmeniť toto:
A dostal som sa k tomuto: (pre mňa jediný ukazovateľ, ktorý sledujem) Pred zmenou som bol tesne nad Breakeven. Čo síce znamenalo, že mám šancu byť z dlhodobého hľadiska v pluse, ale bolo to veľmi natesno. Teraz mám väčšiu istotu, že som na dobrej ceste. Zmenu som spravil v tomto obchode, ktorý samotný skončil v strate. Či udržím takto nastavené parametre do budúcna...to asi nie. Isto sa dostanem s Win rate pod 70% a pomer W/L nebude 1,6/1, ale asi menej. Mám však z môjho pohľadu väčší priestor na chybu. Otváram obchody, kde sú moje šance z pohľadu pravdepodobnosti na mojej strane a nie na strane trhu. Väčšina pozícií je long call, kde som vystavený na milosť/nemilosť trhu, čo sa snažím kompenzovať tým, že sú to väčšinou pozície, kde bude zverejnenie v blízkej dobe. Tak sa vývoj ceny jednotlivej akcie správa trochu inak ako zvyšok trhu. (nie vždy) Isto mi však pomáha nárast volatility, takže aj keď idem v smerovej stratégii, tak stále obchodujem volatilitu a nie iba samotný smer pohybu podkladu.
Celé som to spravil jednoduchšie. Menej kombinácií opcií (opčné stratégie z viacerých kontraktov), menej poplatkov, jednoduchšie signály na vstup, pevný target a SL. (SL nie automatický, čo môže byť aj nevýhoda)A dostal som sa k tomuto: (pre mňa jediný ukazovateľ, ktorý sledujem) Pred zmenou som bol tesne nad Breakeven. Čo síce znamenalo, že mám šancu byť z dlhodobého hľadiska v pluse, ale bolo to veľmi natesno. Teraz mám väčšiu istotu, že som na dobrej ceste. Zmenu som spravil v tomto obchode, ktorý samotný skončil v strate. Či udržím takto nastavené parametre do budúcna...to asi nie. Isto sa dostanem s Win rate pod 70% a pomer W/L nebude 1,6/1, ale asi menej. Mám však z môjho pohľadu väčší priestor na chybu. Otváram obchody, kde sú moje šance z pohľadu pravdepodobnosti na mojej strane a nie na strane trhu. Väčšina pozícií je long call, kde som vystavený na milosť/nemilosť trhu, čo sa snažím kompenzovať tým, že sú to väčšinou pozície, kde bude zverejnenie v blízkej dobe. Tak sa vývoj ceny jednotlivej akcie správa trochu inak ako zvyšok trhu. (nie vždy) Isto mi však pomáha nárast volatility, takže aj keď idem v smerovej stratégii, tak stále obchodujem volatilitu a nie iba samotný smer pohybu podkladu.
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Ja na tvojom mieste by som bol rad, ze som si vytvoril nejaku rezervu na pripadne straty a ze mozem kludnejsie spavat nez pocas jesene/zimy, ked to bolo na hrane, ci ma zmysel vobec tym travit dalsi cas a energiu.
Chcel som len povedat, ze ten krasny vysledok maja a juna bol lebo si vsadil na spravny smer aj spravnu volatilitu trhu. Ine mesiace to tak dokonale nemusis trafit (bez ohladov na tvoje poopravene pravidla) a vysledok bude menej zaujimavy. Coho si si zrejme vedomy a si pripraveny na to.
Chcel som len povedat, ze ten krasny vysledok maja a juna bol lebo si vsadil na spravny smer aj spravnu volatilitu trhu. Ine mesiace to tak dokonale nemusis trafit (bez ohladov na tvoje poopravene pravidla) a vysledok bude menej zaujimavy. Coho si si zrejme vedomy a si pripraveny na to.
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Nenech se odradit. Za ne/úspěchy si můžeš sám. Nemusíš se nikomu zpovídat.
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Teším sa, že som sa vyhol obchodom, ktoré vzhľadom na veľkosť účtu ma dostali do veľkých problémov. Ale mám ešte čo robiť. Najhoršie je (aspoň pre mňa) prijať prehru, že daný obchod je jednoducho zlý a treba ho zatvoriť. Tam sa prejavuje tá rezerva ani nie tak z pohľadu veľkosti účtu, ale z pohľadu RR, ktorú momentálne mám.
Žiadna stratégia nie je neomylná a počítam s tým, že nie všetkým obchodom sa bude dariť. Počas posledných skoro 10 rokov sa pred zverejnením darilo poväčšine pozíciám na long. Short z tohto pohľadu nemám veľmi otestovaný lebo ani veľmi nebolo na čom.
Zlé makro dáta, Trump mi pomohli hlavne koncom júna. Uvidíme, možno už inflácia tento týždeň pošle trhy južnejšie ako sú teraz.
Žiadna stratégia nie je neomylná a počítam s tým, že nie všetkým obchodom sa bude dariť. Počas posledných skoro 10 rokov sa pred zverejnením darilo poväčšine pozíciám na long. Short z tohto pohľadu nemám veľmi otestovaný lebo ani veľmi nebolo na čom.
Zlé makro dáta, Trump mi pomohli hlavne koncom júna. Uvidíme, možno už inflácia tento týždeň pošle trhy južnejšie ako sú teraz.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Close za 1,25$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som ANGO long call Jul'19 20 za 1,20$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Vyhodnotenie:
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som PYPL long call Aug'9 122 za 2,87$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som LRCX long call Jul'26 187,5 za 3,30$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som TXT call debit spread Jul'!9 long 50 short 55 za 2,57$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som ALGN call debi spread Jul'26 long 297,5 short 305 za 2,40$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som ASML call debi spread Jul'19 long 210 short 220 za 3,10$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som GATX long call Jul'19 75 za 2,15$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som BX long call Jul'19 46,5 za 0,65$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 0,1$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som GILD long call Jul'26 70 za 1,56$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 0,50$Rado napísal:Otvoril som MTCH long call Jul'19 75 za 2,25$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 3,20$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som GATX long call Jul'19 75 za 2,15$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 2,80$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som URI call debit spread Jul'19 long 134 short 140 za 1,75$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Otvoril som SLB long call Jul'19 41 za 0,68$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 7,15$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som LRCX long call Jul'26 187,5 za 3,30$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 0,58$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som XOM long call Jul'26 78 za 1,16$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Neviem neuvažoval som nad tým. Ak chceš, tak môžeš použiť to, čo tu dávam. Z môjho pohľadu je to to najviac transparentné, čo môžem dať.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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OK. Zapísal som za 2018: RADO Opcie: -8,96%. Od 6/2018
A do vyhodnotenie prvého polroka 2019 som to vypočítal a bude to nahodené takto:
RADO - OPCIE : +23,46% Celkovo +12,4% od 6/2018.
Radove opčné stratégie sú naživo prezentované v tomto vlákne: https://ako-investovat.sk/diskusia/view ... =11&t=3095" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Skontroluj si to.
A do vyhodnotenie prvého polroka 2019 som to vypočítal a bude to nahodené takto:
RADO - OPCIE : +23,46% Celkovo +12,4% od 6/2018.
Radove opčné stratégie sú naživo prezentované v tomto vlákne: https://ako-investovat.sk/diskusia/view ... =11&t=3095" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Skontroluj si to.
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O.K. sedí to presne. Ďakujem.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Po stratách v tomto týždni sa moja Win Rate posunula spolu s percentom úspešnosti. (68%) Stále som však tam, kde chcem byť. Na investovaný 1$ robím aktuálne 67 centov.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som HXL Aug'16 long call 80 za 2,70$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som SKX Jul'19 long call 36 za 1,40$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som TSM Jul'19 long call 42 za 0,65$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Close za 0,39$. Môj SL na tejto pozícii.Rado napísal:Otvoril som BX long call Jul'19 46,5 za 0,65$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Vyhodnotenie:
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Close za 1,83$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som ASML call debi spread Jul'19 long 210 short 220 za 3,10$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Close za 3,32$.Rado napísal:Otvoril som TXT call debit spread Jul'!9 long 50 short 55 za 2,57$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India