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Opcie a opčné stratégie
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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Naposledy upravil/-a Rado v Ut 04 05, 2021 10:11 pm, upravené celkom 1 krát.
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Ahoj Rado , ked mas data svojho systemu , kde sa zhruba nachadzas v Kellyho diagrame?
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Na to, aby som vedel odpovedať, tak by som musel poznať vstupné parametre do grafu.
Ja sa pozerám na svoju WinRate. Takto vyzerá po 574 obchodoch. Toto je aktuálny rok po 151 obchodoch. Nedá sa povedať, že to je systém, ale celé moje obchodovanie. Musel by som to rozbiť na jednotlivé stratégie. (earnings, non earnings, obchody na volatilitu a pod.) Minulý rok mi napríklad lepšie vychádzali obchody na zverejnenia a ostatné som mohol vynechať. Teraz je to opačne.![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
Ja sa pozerám na svoju WinRate. Takto vyzerá po 574 obchodoch. Toto je aktuálny rok po 151 obchodoch. Nedá sa povedať, že to je systém, ale celé moje obchodovanie. Musel by som to rozbiť na jednotlivé stratégie. (earnings, non earnings, obchody na volatilitu a pod.) Minulý rok mi napríklad lepšie vychádzali obchody na zverejnenia a ostatné som mohol vynechať. Teraz je to opačne.
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os x %WIN =pocet win/celkovy pocet obchodov x100, os y %EF = (suma win-suma lost)/suma win x100
Existujú starí obchodníci a odvážni obchodníci. Je len veľmi málo starých, odvážnych obchodníkov. “ -Ed Seykota-
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Je to skoro to isté ako môj WinRate. Os x mi sedí.osamely chodec napísal: ↑St 05 05, 2021 2:27 pm os x %WIN =pocet win/celkovy pocet obchodov x100, os y %EF = (suma win-suma lost)/suma win x100
Os y mám podľa vzorca 6,6%. Os y mi nesedí, je to fakt dobrý vzorec?
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mas ozaj taku nizku efektivitu? Napr. na celkovy zisk 1000 usd mas celkovu stratu 940 usd to je 6% . Celkovy zisk sa pocita sucet ziskovych obchodov od zaciatku obchodovania systemu. Celkova strata obdobne.
Existujú starí obchodníci a odvážni obchodníci. Je len veľmi málo starých, odvážnych obchodníkov. “ -Ed Seykota-
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Áno. To je za tento rok.
Ja porovnávam prierný zisk a stratu na obchod. To sú tie grafy vyššie. Celkovo generujem vyššiu priemernú stratu na obchod ako zisk. Mňa zaujíma, či som nad breakeven alebo nie. Vyššia efektivita by išla na úkor %WIN a niektoré obchody by nevykazovali z dlhodobého hľadiska profit.
Ja porovnávam prierný zisk a stratu na obchod. To sú tie grafy vyššie. Celkovo generujem vyššiu priemernú stratu na obchod ako zisk. Mňa zaujíma, či som nad breakeven alebo nie. Vyššia efektivita by išla na úkor %WIN a niektoré obchody by nevykazovali z dlhodobého hľadiska profit.
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
zlte ciary na diagrame udavaju rrr ak mas %w nad 50 pri 1r je to na hrane tych 6% EF. Podla toho diagramu ale ten system co trejdis by potreboval vylepsit , lebo sa nachadza mimo. Len co to mimo znamena , neviem ...
Existujú starí obchodníci a odvážni obchodníci. Je len veľmi málo starých, odvážnych obchodníkov. “ -Ed Seykota-
Porozumiet znamená zvyknúť si.
Láska nad zlato, myšlienka nad majetok.
Chodci a cyklisti vážia menej ako šoféri a šoférky. (prieskum EU)
Porozumiet znamená zvyknúť si.
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Mne viac vyhovuje sledovať to na grafe, ktorý mám. Máš tam skoro to isté. %Win, ale potom je tam pomer øzisk/østrata. Na grafe mám brakeven. Všetko nad je ziskové obchodovanie, všetko pod vedie k celkovej strate. Casino má pri niektorých stávkach statu vs zisk 1:1 a len percento Win stačí, aby boli v zisku. Pomer je 52,7/47,3.osamely chodec napísal: ↑St 05 05, 2021 9:27 pm zlte ciary na diagrame udavaju rrr ak mas %w nad 50 pri 1r je to na hrane tych 6% EF. Podla toho diagramu ale ten system co trejdis by potreboval vylepsit , lebo sa nachadza mimo. Len co to mimo znamena , neviem ...
Príklad zo včerajška MSFT. Tam mám PT 25%. SL žiadny. Za tri roky 20 obchodov s úspešnosťou 85%.
Úprava na PT 25% SL 40%. 22 obchodov 72,7% úspešnosť
Úprava na PT 40% SL 20%. 20 obchodov 60% úspešnosť. (stále profitabilný prístup akurát vygeneroval o polovicu menší ABS profit ako prvé nastavenie)
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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