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Opcie a opčné stratégie
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Nezabudnite, prosím, že svojou prítomnosťou a diskutovaním na tomto fóre vyjadrujete svoj súhlas s vždy aktuálnymi Podmienkami používania tohto fóra. Predovšetkým prosím dbajte na slušnosť komunikácie a rešpektovanie sa navzájom. Celé Podmienky používania tohto fóra si môžte prečítať tu.
Nezabudnite, prosím, že svojou prítomnosťou a diskutovaním na tomto fóre vyjadrujete svoj súhlas s vždy aktuálnymi Podmienkami používania tohto fóra. Predovšetkým prosím dbajte na slušnosť komunikácie a rešpektovanie sa navzájom. Celé Podmienky používania tohto fóra si môžte prečítať tu.
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Zatiaľ sa potvrdzuje, že leto mávam silné, tak len nech to vydrží. Na to, aby som ukončil dobrý rok by som potreboval ešte aspoň 3 plusové mesiace a v tých ostatných nestratiť veľa.
Aj tento rok mám pozitívnu expectancy cca 30$ na obchod. Mesačne v priemere otvorím 34 obchodov, čo je dosť. (o 3 mesiace tak môžem čakať cca plus 3 000$ )
Pripájam ešte plnenie plánu, ktoré už vyzerá pozitívnejšie.
Aj tento rok mám pozitívnu expectancy cca 30$ na obchod. Mesačne v priemere otvorím 34 obchodov, čo je dosť. (o 3 mesiace tak môžem čakať cca plus 3 000$ )
Pripájam ešte plnenie plánu, ktoré už vyzerá pozitívnejšie.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som long call TROW Aug'20 207 za 3,60$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som diagonal na AAPL long call Sep'03 147 short call Aug'27 155 za 2,98$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som diagonal na WMT (Earnings 17.8. BMO) long call Aug'20 143 short call Aug'13 146 za 2,52$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Vyhodnotenie:
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som long call V Aug'20 240 za 2,95$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Je tohle pravda?
Short put position
Prodej prodejní opce – short put position: prodavač opce spekuluje na stejný kurz nebo na mírný růst kurzu a hlavně chce získat prémii například 7 euro, kterou dostane od kupce opce. Prodavač opce se zavázal a je povinen od kupce opce akcie za 50 euro odkoupit a dostal za to prémii 7 euro. Při poklesu kurzu akcie pod 43 prodavač opce ztrácí peníze, neboť musí koupit akcie od kupce za 50 euro.
Kupec opci nechá propadnout a ztratil jen peníze za prémii, zůstane-li kurz akcie nad 50 euro.
Short put position
Prodej prodejní opce – short put position: prodavač opce spekuluje na stejný kurz nebo na mírný růst kurzu a hlavně chce získat prémii například 7 euro, kterou dostane od kupce opce. Prodavač opce se zavázal a je povinen od kupce opce akcie za 50 euro odkoupit a dostal za to prémii 7 euro. Při poklesu kurzu akcie pod 43 prodavač opce ztrácí peníze, neboť musí koupit akcie od kupce za 50 euro.
Kupec opci nechá propadnout a ztratil jen peníze za prémii, zůstane-li kurz akcie nad 50 euro.
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Áno, je to tak ako píšeš. Ak predáš put opciu, tak máš povinnosť kupovať za 50€. Ak dostaneš 7€ za predaj, tak tvoj break even je 43€. Všetko nižšie je pre teba strata. (alebo zisk, ak si chcel kupovať akcie za 50€, tak kupuješ so zľavou 7€)
Ten, kto kúpi opciu bude v čase expirácie v zisku, ak cena klesne pod 43€.
Všetko je to však v čase expirácie. Ak by hneď na druhý deň po obchode klesla cena na 45€, tak tie opcie by mohli stáť 10€ a mohol by ich kupujúci zo ziskom predať. Predávajúci môže čakať až do expirácie. Na svojej strane má čas, ktorý z opcie uberá každý deň jej hodnotu.
Ten, kto kúpi opciu bude v čase expirácie v zisku, ak cena klesne pod 43€.
Všetko je to však v čase expirácie. Ak by hneď na druhý deň po obchode klesla cena na 45€, tak tie opcie by mohli stáť 10€ a mohol by ich kupujúci zo ziskom predať. Predávajúci môže čakať až do expirácie. Na svojej strane má čas, ktorý z opcie uberá každý deň jej hodnotu.
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Já si myslím, a myslet znamená houby vědět, že opční prémie 20 € se nemůže odečítat z kurzu akcie.
Protože když je zájem o call opce nebo put opce na kontrakt 100 akcií s kurzem 10 €,
pak se ta opční prémie odečte od celého kontraktu akcií za 1.000 € a zbyde hodnota akcií 980 €.
Pak by se mělo moudře říct, aby to byla pravda: ''Když se změní kurz akcie tolik, že se koupí nebo prodají výhodněji
bez opce, pak se ztratí peníze jen za opční prémii, opce se nechá vypršet a akcie se koupí nebo prodají bez opce.''
Protože když je zájem o call opce nebo put opce na kontrakt 100 akcií s kurzem 10 €,
pak se ta opční prémie odečte od celého kontraktu akcií za 1.000 € a zbyde hodnota akcií 980 €.
Pak by se mělo moudře říct, aby to byla pravda: ''Když se změní kurz akcie tolik, že se koupí nebo prodají výhodněji
bez opce, pak se ztratí peníze jen za opční prémii, opce se nechá vypršet a akcie se koupí nebo prodají bez opce.''
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som long call CRWD Aug'20 270 za 6,60$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som diagonal na FB long call Sep'03 360 short call Aug'27 370 za 5,385$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Máš pravdu pri put opcii. Tvoj nákup by bol 980€. (menej o inkasované prémium)Ladis napísal: ↑St 04 08, 2021 7:53 pm Já si myslím, a myslet znamená houby vědět, že opční prémie 20 € se nemůže odečítat z kurzu akcie.
Protože když je zájem o call opce nebo put opce na kontrakt 100 akcií s kurzem 10 €,
pak se ta opční prémie odečte od celého kontraktu akcií za 1.000 € a zbyde hodnota akcií 980 €.
Pri call opcii by bol tvoj nákup 1020€. (náklady 20€ na nákup call opcie). V prípade, že by si predával call opciu na vlastnené akcie, tak tvoj zisk by nebol 1000€, ale 1020€ (+ inkasované prémium za predanú call opciu) Niečo ako nájom alebo dodatočná dividenda, ale s rizikom, že o akcie prídeš. (v zisku)
Toto je pravda v prípade, že sa cena pri kúpenej opcii dostane nad strike a pri kúpenej opcii pod strike. Vtedy nemá zmysel si ich uplatňovať a nechať ich expirovať. Predať a kúpiť sa dá v tomto prípade výhodnejšie na trhu. Od ceny sa potom odpočíta zaplatené prémium za opcie. (call alebo put)
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Otvoril som long call INTU Sep'03 550 za 10,30$.
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Vyhodnotenie:
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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Close za 3,5$.
Som z tohto obchodu trochu sklamaný. Namiesto 240% beriem zisk 13%, ale dodržal som set up, čo ma teší.
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
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“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
Vyhodnotenie:
"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
Re: Opcie a opčné stratégie
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
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"Every great story on the planet happened when someone decided not to give up, but kept going no matter what." ~Spryte Loriano
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India
“ All is well in the end, if it is not well, it is not the end” – saying in India