kocinavi obchody

[osamely chodec]

Takze ten poliak pekne doplachtil k mojmu PT ,zasa som vybral zisk velmi skoro.Dufam, ze sa este na tej 4,6-4,0 odrazi hore a umozni mi vstup do shortu.Ak prerazi 4,0 vstupim po prerazeni aj ked je prepredany,zajtra sa uvidi,ako to vymyslia v Londyne.

[osamely chodec]

Nakup CHK 23,85
Predaj EUR/PLN 4,1813

[osamely chodec]

up date eur/pln 4,1813

teraz ide po 4,1110 som v pluse + 703 pip, vstup sa podaril pomohli mi hlavne indikatory CCI.
Teraz mam dilemu zobrat 703 pip a cakat na dalsi vhodny vstup, alebo nastavit sl na be a ist na testovanie supportu pod 4,8.Tento tyzden vysli v Polsku dobre makra, hlavne HDP a tak idem na druhu moznost a cakam na holuba na streche.

[osamely chodec]

Exit EUR /PLN 4,0935 +878 pip

Takze vrabco-holub je uz v hrsti.Neriskoval som uz tento pekny profit , indikatory su uz prepredane a blizime sa k silnej hranici pod 4,08 a to budem uz sledovat radsej v klude.

K tomu poliakovi by som potreboval nejaku menu, ktora je podla TA a FA prilis silna a je predpoklad, ze v strednodobom horizonte bude oslabovat/ nie EUR/.Ak viete dajte tipy.

[osamely chodec]

Predaj eur/pln 4,1681 . Dobra panika na trhu.

[robopol]

mozes sem dat screen vývoja. Kuknem na to s mojou TA

[osamely chodec]

To mas zadara na deme xtb, ale ked napises aky frame chces dam to tu.

[robopol]

no aky frame riešiš, ved ten daj, a potom o jeden rad vyssi napr. das 5 min a potrebujem este 15 min.

[osamely chodec]

ja pouzivam h4,d,w vynimocne pozeram na h1

[robopol]

Fajn, Pouzivas trendove linky to ti schvaľujem (len si ich znač pre svoje TF z oboch strán, zožeň si vyhladene kĺzavé indikátory JMA sú lepšie(jurikes.com).

Čo sa týka odhadu tak tu máme trend ročný (máš zakreslený kanál) smer dodola. Zaujimavá je hranica 4,1-4,2 Eur/PLN. Tam sa vytvoril oscilačný cyklus. Vývoj naznačuje, že PLN má ešte silu ísť pod hranicu pod 4, ja osobne by si som akurat shortoval teraz na vrchole. Podľa môjho názoru je silný predpoklad že sa to dostane pod 4 a nižšie. Otestujú sa nové minima.

[Lance]

Predaj eur/pln 4,1681 . Dobra panika na trhu.

Ahoj Kocinovi na tvojich grafoch denny a 4 hod,mas pekne Pin bars,ak nie si tak mozno by stalo za uvahu ist do shortu.Je to v smere trendu a ten na 4 hod,ma peknu polohu,tam by si to mal shortovat.Inak kolko tam mas spread a cez koho to obchodujes?

[JUGGLER]

Ahoj Kocinovi na tvojich grafoch denny a 4 hod,mas pekne Pin bars,ak nie si tak mozno by stalo za uvahu ist do shortu.Je to v smere trendu a ten na 4 hod,ma peknu polohu,tam by si to mal shortovat.Inak kolko tam mas spread a cez koho to obchodujes?

Však on je v shorte. Aspoň ja to tak vidim

K:
začínaj trejd PLN short ..ináč vzniká dojem, že predávaš po nákupe.

[osamely chodec]

Polepsim sa.

[Lance]

Polepsim sa.

hehhe sorac kocinovi,ja som to len tak preletel,nevsimol som si,tak drzim palce nech z toho zoberies co najviacej

[osamely chodec]

Predaj eur/pln 4,1681 . Dobra panika na trhu.

Navysujem kratku poziciu short EUR/PLN 4,2051

[osamely chodec]

Nakup CHK 23,85

EXIT CHK 27,08 +13,54%

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up date eur/pln celkova pozicia 4,1866 /2x short/

teraz ide okolo 4,13 som v zisku cca 550 pip, uvidim ci sa odrazi od 4,12 lebo potom to vidim az na 4,08.Prikladam graf.

[osamely chodec]

short cfd marcove kakao 3281 bez sl dlhodobo pripravene este 4 dokupy / cfd preto, lebo futures je drahy/

K dokupom som sa nedostal vystupujem na BE.

[osamely chodec]

up date EUR/PLN SHORT 4,1866 teraz 4,0779 +1087 pip

Ide to celkom pekne,rozhodol som sa /pokial nenastane nejaky vybuch/ otestovat urovne 4,0000.

[Maratamus]

Pekny trejd ten poliak!

Aky mas na neho spread u XTB?

[osamely chodec]

Dik, spred u xtb je cez den 40 pip.Tento obchod idem cez xtb.Saxo ma spred 30 no do 0,5 lotu uctuje poplatok za obchod cca 7 eur,ja idem cez postupne dokupovanie a tak mi xtb viac vyhovuje aj ked zasa maju podstatne horsie podmienky na swapoch,ako saxo.Uvital by som brokera s podstatne lepsimi podmienkami,ale tento par je pre svet exotika.

[JUGGLER]

Dik, spred u xtb je cez den 40 pip. Uvital by som brokera s podstatne lepsimi podmienkami,ale tento par je pre svet exotika.

Oanda ma 15 pipíkov.
http://fxtrade.oanda.com/forex_trading/ ... er_spreads" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Môžem ti zistiť, či niekto nemá ešte menej.

[Maratamus]

Juggler diky za postreh.
Cez Oandu obchoduje viacej profikov, ale velmi by som rad vedel aka je skutocnost.
V mojich ociach je Oanda seriozny broker, preto pripajam postrehy dvoch traderov, ktore ma "mozno" vyvadzaju z omylu:

Felix Homogratus, USA
Rating:
Date of Post: 2007-07-04
Review: I think Oanda is trying to be an honest operation, but they can't be that, because of the limitations of their technology, so they remain a high end bucket shop. They of course don't like to call themselves a bucket shop, so they call themselves a market maker. I have no complaints about them, because I was able to pull out a decent amount of profits by trading with them, but be prepared to pay spreads as high as 30 pips or more during a lot of news announcements, and even several minutes into the news announcements. Be prepared for your orders during the news to be delayed by 3 seconds, which is illegal, but in my experience Oanda is doing that, even though they won't ever tell you that they are doing that. You can see it yourself that your broker isn't instantly executed, especially around news times. Be prepared that if you make too much money with them, your account could be closed, and they'll ask you to leave their brokerage. It has happened to several of my clients. But other than that, they give you deposits very quickly, they allow you lot size flexibility, and during normal market conditions, they are generally okay. But it's definitely a very manipulated trading environment. And by the way, if you don't know what a bucket shop operation means, you can read more by going to this encyclopedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_shop" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
asdf, New York
Rating:
Date of Post: 2009-12-16
Review: I have been with Oanda for more than a year. Oanda is a market maker so they actively trade against there customers. They actively hunt stop losses. Oanda's trading platform freezes often. I have lost my connection to my trading account while trading and they told me that I was having internet connectivity problems even though I could get to other web sites and log in to my email without a problem. They also did not know that I used to be a network administrator before telling me that I was having internet connectivity problems. Oanda is a highly manipulated environment. The correct term for this type of broker is a "Bucket Shop"

ECN brokers are the most free market breed of broker. They do not have a dealing desk that can be manipulated. ECN brokers want you to be successful because they make money when you make money. Oanda makes money when you loose. As time moves forward traders will opt for ECN brokers and market makers will go bust.

V kazdom pripade spread na poliaka je vynikajuci, trebalo by zistit ci sa rozsiruje pred spravami.

[Martin52]

OANDA ma vyrazne pohyblive spready, na exotickych paroch je to najviditelnejsie. Dost to byva okolo sprav, ale najma sa rozsiruju mimo hlavnych burzovych hodin (sviatky, vikend, noc).

Historia spredu za posledny tyden sa da pozriet na tejto linke: http://fxtrade.oanda.com/forex_trading/ ... da_spreads
EUR/PLN ide od 15 po 500 PIPS.

[osamely chodec]

EXIT eur/pln 4,1220 zisk 646 pip.

Spekulacia na rychle zdolanie 4,00 mi nevysla a neriskujem cely profit.Takze ostavam iba ako divak.


Dik za tip na Oandu,pozriem na to.

[nitro]

cekni http://www.odlmarkets.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; spread maju 30 ako Saxo ale myslim, ze uz necharguju poplatok..ale neviem to na 100%, nejak podrobne som to neskumal..

[Maratamus]

Jajajááááááj!

Ruky preč od ODL!


Dave, Bournemouth UK
Date of Post: 2009-09-17

Review: I opened a MT4account with them and funded it as per normal. The reason I chose them partly was because they were governed by the FSA and in the UK.Through my own bad practices I ended up having to refund a further few times and after each time I got a phone call from my account manager always trying to get me to sign up to something else which involved me investing more money than I was prepared to and offering me this and that as incentives. I cannot wait to make back the money I have lost and then I shall withdraw it all and close all my accounts with them and do all my trading with another that I use. Their MT4 platform is a joke - it has to be the worst I have come across with regard to response times and it was the same on three different computers so it was not the computer and if I had more than 3 charts up with a few indicators it was like press the button.... dur.... oh it added the indicator or changed the chart and the time it took you to read from a few indicators to here is how long it took. The spreads go out to ridiculous levels albeit after normal hours but hey 9/10 pip spread on Aud/Usd at 21:45 GMT when the normal spread is 2pips and 6/7 on USD/JPY at the same time. The spreadbetting platform performs no better with them locking down the trade buttons as soon as there is any major news or at market opens but that is under a different review section.I am still going to have to get my money out yet so I shall see what fun and games I have with that following reading some of the reviews posted here.
DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR DONT USE THESE - they are not dishonest as far as I know, but there are a lot better, for example FXPro and that is who I also use. I would give them 5 stars for rating but ODL only 1.

Artem, Russia
Date of Post: 2009-05-28

Review: Very poor service. They lied or their supporters do not know much about their services as when I asked them about simple things they always told me to ask someone else from their team or call them. And I became furious when they told me that they have no commissions for CFD transactions and when I opened a position and made some profit I was suprised that I am still negative. They take $30 to open a position and additional $30 to close it. THAT'S how they call it "NO COMMISSION"???? 60 bucks for 1 transaction! Can you imagine it??? I lost around $60 and they stopped to reply to my emails in which I asked them to explain their lies....

Paul, Germany
Date of Post: 2009-05-21

Review: Yesterday, I got a call from a very incompetent support guy who told me that I'm not allowed to run my EAs because they trade "outside the ODL datafeed". How can I trade outside the datafeed?? They offer BID/ASK with a wide spread and I have to take, what they offer.
I guess, the problem was that I started to make money..... It's like in a casino: as long as you are losing, you're a welcome guest

Mark, Dublin
Date of Post: 2009-04-27

Review: ODL UK did not pay me the profit of E 129,000. The case was with their complaince for over a months and then they came out with:
All your trades were "outside of ODL price feeds".
So, a month later they canceled all my trades. I think it is a complete SCAM broker. How can you ever know that the price you are clicking at is not outside of their price feed?

2009-03-26
Traded with ODL in Feb 2009. Now I cannot withdraw my money- they say it has to go through complaince, etc. The guy from complaince is never available to answer my phone calls, e mails are being ignored. It's been on for a month now. Do they have financial difficulties or what?

Nicky, India
Date of Post: 2009-04-01

Review: Two words - KEEP AWAY! They will keep your account and you will get quite a few unsolicited calls from their representatives when you are losing money (read "they are getting your money"). However, as soon as you start making money, they will close your account - sure sign of a sweatbucket shop that lives off your hard earned money.

While they may have the prerogative of not allowing scalping trades or EAs, why weren't these same trades or EAs banned when they were making losses? I have never seen them complaining that non-profitable scalping EAs were "against the policies of the company."

Also, these same representatives who were very polite in suggesting more ways for you to lose money with them (one Adil Siddiqi in particular) turned downright nasty and dispensed with all semblance of politeness or grace when they decided to close accounts.

Deal with them only if your big bank balance is keeping you awake at nights and instead of worrying about the uncertainty of when the bank may go under and lose your money, you would much rather sleep easy in the certainty that your money has been put to good use in paying the salaries of uncouth, rude representatives of this company.

[osamely chodec]

SHORT EUR/PLN 4,1020.

[osamely chodec]

SHORT EUR/PLN 4,1020.

EXIT 4,0000 +1020 bodov

[osamely chodec]

Takze predaj EUR/PLN 4,0530

[Lance]

Takze predaj EUR/PLN 4,0530

Ahoj este stale drzis ten short?Inak na zaklade coho alebo ako si tam vstupoval?mal si sell limit?Sa pytam pretoze podla toho co vidno na H4,tak ak short tak sell limit a touche trade,inak neviem.Ja by som do toho isiel len tak na h4 to pekne vidno.Teraz na daily by to mohol byt short,ale asi nie prilis kedze na wekly to skor vyzera na long.Inak tieto exoticke meny vyzeraju zaujimavo,horsi spread,ale az sa to berie na dlhsie,tak by to mohlo ist.Vdaka za tip a nech sa dari.

[osamely chodec]

v piatok dokup na 4,1010 podla planu, dvojnasobna pozicia oproti prvemu nakupu.Teraz vysledna pozicia 4,0850.

to Lance
drzim ten short ,inak by som to tu napisal.Vstupoval som na zaklade mojho obchodneho planu.Vstupujem do obchodov na presne definovanych hodnotach a nastavujem si na platforme sell limit.
Ten poliak naozaj teraz vyzera na korekciu vacsieho rangu 4,2 az 4,3 by ma neprekvapilo no dlhodobo je trend podla mna jasny short.

[osamely chodec]

v piatok dokup na 4,1010 podla planu, dvojnasobna pozicia oproti prvemu nakupu.Teraz vysledna pozicia 4,0850.

to Lance
drzim ten short ,inak by som to tu napisal.Vstupoval som na zaklade mojho obchodneho planu.Vstupujem do obchodov na presne definovanych hodnotach a nastavujem si na platforme sell limit.
Ten poliak naozaj teraz vyzera na korekciu vacsieho rangu 4,2 az 4,3 by ma neprekvapilo no dlhodobo je trend podla mna jasny short.

Exit eur/pln 4,0190 zisk +660 bodov, radsej vrabec v hrsti.

[Lance]

Velmi dobry trade Kocinovi,ja som to len tak kukal jednym okom.Inak len taka pripomienka,kde si si tu uviedol ,dost velky spread,hm tusim vcera som kukol fxpro a tam v jednom case bolo tusim okolo 6 pips,myslim,ze to drzia na tejto hodnote london a NY open,potom to leti medzi 10 az 20.
Co sa tyka toho spreadu ma to tento tyzden dostalo na E/A som tam v behol ked to bolo 10 pips,no v priebehu dna sa dalo za 4 pips,naco som pekne doplatil som dal uzky S/L a ma to hezky vykoplo,inak ten trade by bol super,hehe aspon to ma tesi:)).
Kocinovi robis aj Fund.analyzu alebo len cisto technika?robis este aaj nejaky iny par alebo sa specializujes len na tento.Viem ,ze si tu niekde spominal,ze vychadzas hlavne z toho ,ze poznas region,cize fundamenty ako na dlani.

[osamely chodec]

Co sa tyka FA urcite sledujem vsetky ekonomicke spravy z Polska,hlavne mi pomohlo sledovanie reakcie menoveho paru na spravy v minulosti.Pozeram zverejnenia HDP a vyjadrenia centralnej banky z hladiska nastavenia urokovych sadzieb,tiez vyvoj inflacie.To v pohode je zadarmo na webe. To mi dava smer obchodovania. Predtym som obchodoval v oboch smeroch a zial hydra v podobe velkych drawndownov ma vzdy zmiatla ,vymazala mi vsetky zisky a dostala ma do strat.Moj najvacsi nepriatel je velky drawndown.Teraz pouzivam pevne percento risku , co mi vsak pri terajsej velkej uspesnosti mojho systemu dost limituje zisky.
Technicky je moj system velmi jednoduchy vyuziva pullbacky v trende. Zistol som ze tato hra pre mna nie je obchodovani, ale o trpezlivosti a pozorovani.Inak je to dost velka nuda len sediet a pozorovat,ked ja by som chcel obchodovat.No u mna to funguje tak , ze peniaze zarabam viac ked len sedim Este sledujem pln/jpy ,lebo ocakavam oslabovanie jenu voci eur.Zatial som to neobchodoval.

[Lance]

Hm no ono ta trpezlivost je tam najdolezitejsia,jednoducho cakat na obchod nech sam k tebe pride.Hm mozno by si mal obchodovat viacej parov a tak skoro vzdy by sa nieco ukazalo a mal si tak sancu uspokojit to ochodovacie nutkanie byt stale v nejakom obchode:).Inak preco neskusis nejakeho lepsieho brokera,myslim tym s lepsim spreads pre teba?

[osamely chodec]

pozeral som to fxpro, tam maju na stranke uvedene min. spread 50 pip a typical 150 na eur/pln.Nic moc a tych 150 je horor.Ja to obchodujem za 30 pip.

[Lance]

To fakt? vsak kvoli tomu som sa kukal ,za kolko a v noci to bolo okolo 20 a cez den som to videl za nejakych 6,hm oki kuknem to to by som nesiel do toho aj keby to bolo len za tych 50.Hm neviem nezda sa mi to.Je mozne ,ze som v tej chvili otvoril iny par a tak sa stal omyl a hodil ti to tu.Pozriem este a potom ti to tu hodim.

[Lance]

Hm no hej na webe maju uvedene 50,hm sorry som to mal asi prepnute na iny par alebo to nemaju na webe aktualizovane?:),kuknem ked budem doma,ci to naozaj tak drzia.

[Lance]

Ahoj Kocinovi,Ten tip,ze to pojde dole bol super,mas ten par pekne omakany,inak s tym fxpro je to na hovno je tam fakt velky spread,teraz v noci npr.cez 100 ,takze este raz sorry za mizerny tip na brokera.Oni maju dobre spreads,ale tuna je to zle.